Log from in game Ambassador's Meeting
January 15, 2000

An in game meeting of the Ambassador's Council was held on Saturday January 15th.  Guide Altea, Guide Dreknor and Senior Guide Kerowynne attended. (the log is from Balar's perspective so You = Balar)  Here is the log:

You say, 'Ok.... I'd like to make sure everyone knows Altea.'
Altea says, 'Greetings to all of you!'
You say, 'Altea is a guide here.'
Rodnik says, 'Well met Lady Altea.'
Lemminkainen nods.
Kaia nods.
Drethlor bows.
Athene says, 'I think she pulled one of my corpses from a wall before.'
You say, 'She has been dubbed our "Social Director".'
Altea smiles.
Athene bows before Altea.
You say, 'Altea likes our mutual efforts to improve the server.'
Dreknor pokes Kerowynne.
You say, 'Would you like to say a few words Altea?'
Zapz says, 'Hello all'
Kaia says, 'Hail Kerowynne = ) Well met lady.'
Balar bows before Kerowynne.
Altea says, 'Actually, I would like to yield the floor to our senior guide, Kerowynne, who has just arrived )'
Altea beams a smile at Kerowynne.
Lwenye says out of character, 'Np )'
Delora says, 'Hail'
Lugersith says, 'Hail'
Rodnik says, 'Greetings Kerowynne .'
Kerowynne says, 'Oh . Was I supposed to prepare a speech'
You say, 'Greetings Kerowynne, please say a few words.'
Kerowynne looks around.
Kaia grins evilly at Kerowynne.
You say, 'Kerowynne was very helpful at the Halloween event.'
You say, 'I believe she also shares our love of roleplaying.'
Kerowynne says, 'I do want to say that we guides of Bristlebane are very excited to hear about the council.'
Kaia beams a smile at Kerowynne.
Kerowynne says, 'It is truly a wonderful thing to see so many banded together who share the love of this world, and want to offer thier services to better it.'
Xoleres notes two key guilds missing.
Altea beams a smile at Kerowynne.
Dreknor wipes away a tear.
Kerowynne says, 'I have been serving the Order of Bristlebane for many months, and have often had the pleasure of seeing those in your various houses act for the good of the many.'

You say, 'May I ask a question of the guides?'
Altea says, 'Certainly Balar )'
Kerowynne nods, "Of course!"
Aeuamil bonks Kerowynne on the head!
You say, 'Have the guides read our discussion of the /roleplay switch ideas?'
Altea says, 'I must admit myself I only had time to scan it before coming on today Balar, my apologies. But from what we have discussed in our emails back and forth, I think you are on to something. Could you share for the other two?'

Aruyall says, 'Hail'
Altea says, 'I failed to brief them before dragging them here )'
Kaia says, 'Hail Aruyall'
Kerowynne grins.
Athene nudges Balar.
Altea beams a smile at Balar.
Dreknor bonks Altea on the head!
You say, 'Well, in e-mail we have discussed much of having the "staff" more involved in quests and events.'
Athene says, 'Don't forget multiple guild wars, Balar . . . . G*'
You say, 'Hopefully to encourage a chain of command from Verant (GMs) to the guides and on to the player leaders.'
You say, 'Ok Athene (grin) I won't forget.'
Kaia says, 'Aye multiple guild wars would be a wonderful addition to our RP ideas.'
Guttin says, 'Are we free to talk ooor no?'
You say, 'With Altea (and somewhat with Kero) I've discussed much of the ongoing story line.'
Kerowynne says, 'Well, I would address the issue of Gms and guides involving in your storyline.'
Kaia says, 'Tis a meeting, I would hope we can all share our views if not there is no reason for us all to be here.'
Guttin says, 'Aye'
You say, 'One moment... Ok, Guttin, please speak up.'
Kerowynne says, 'This is a rather touchy issue. The primary concern of Verant is that of appearing to play favorites.'
Guttin says, 'Is this the first meeting ever done?'
You say, 'No, this is the second such meeting.'
Zapz says, 'Yes but in this story line how so guilds with evil and good races fit in'
You say, 'We are asking that it NOT be OUR storyline but rather Verants!'
Guttin says, 'I would like to introduce myself i am Guttin ambassidor of the Leaders Of Justice'
Narn says, 'Welcome guttin'
Kerowynne says, 'Althought we are free to offer advice, and we do want to attend as many events as posible, it is difficult to offer special events or things that would appear as favors" to the council. I have read Belar's latest message to Altea, and I do think that'

Kerowynne says, 'It would be a wonderful things if Verant can work with the players to offer an event for all.'
Zapz says, 'I would also like to introduce mtself i am Zapz T'dow ambassador for the Crimson Draconia'
Altea says, 'Greetings, Zapz'
Narn says, 'Welcome also to you zapz'
Guttin says, 'May i bring up a new issue?'
Kerowynne says, 'It is a bit of a novel idea, and I will be presenting it through the chain to see what kind of response we can get.'
Athene says, 'I avoid the events for all. Too much lag and too little communication.'
Kaia says, 'And I am Kaia Alphawolf Mistress of Forgotten LEgion.'
You say, 'What I'd like to convince Verant of is the value of using player leaders to involve MORE players in the events without creating massive events.... thus not playing favorites (I realize a touchy subject with Verant).'

Aruyall nods at Athene.
Zapz bows before Altea.
Kaia says, 'I too Athene avoid them too many kool dewds looking for kool lewt not my idea of fun I am sorry to say.'
Kerowynne says, 'Aye, Belar, and if you have specific ideas on how to do that, I do encourage you to bring them to Altea and myself.'
Altea says, 'He does have a proposed storyline which I have forwarded to you earlier today, though my mail is a bit slow )'
You say, 'Guttin, did you have something to bring up?'
Guttin says, 'A different issue Aye'
Athene says, 'The roleplaying behind those events isn't known by most of the participants, in my opinion.'
You say, 'Let's hear it but try not to digress.'
Aruyall says, 'My personal opinion on events, If you draw them out for long periods of time many of the players looking for instant gratification loose intrest and you see the true RolePlayers continue with the RP storyline'

Altea nods.
You say, 'Publicity is a key factor in an ongoing storyline and that is how we the Ambassadors can help.'
Guttin says, 'I being a warrior Think that WAlking Running, ports and agets should not be the only forms of transportation'
Kerowynne says, 'Well, there are pluses and minuses to that.'
Guttin says, 'Boats also'
Kerowynne says, 'There are times when certain events occur that last longer . we have found in some instances, those interested in .'
Kerowynne coughs.
Athene says, 'I'm confused, Balar.'
You say, 'What confusion Athene?'
Kaia wonders if Kerowynne is ok or if she needs a cough drop.
Pinene says, 'Question on events'
Kerowynne says, 'Cool Loot, do not leave, but stay, hoping for something. What all too often ends up happening is that so many arrive that the load on the zone is too much, causing otherworldly technical problems.'

Athene says, 'Are we asking Verant to create roleplays for us '
You say, 'Guttin, agreed, could you bring that to the Ambassador's site for discussion so we can bring it to the guides and Verant?'
Pinene says, 'Will there be more added to the stoyline that happen in kithcor forest'
Kaia says, 'Balar I am not interested in Verant creating my roleplays for me I enjoy writing them out meself.'
Kerowynne says, 'We can't confirm or deny that Pinene'
Kerowynne grins.
Guttin says, 'Aye i will .'
Xoleres loves that line.
Athene says, 'Why can't the roleplaying information show up periodically on the log in news screen.'
Kerowynne winks at Xoleres.
Pinene says, 'I likedthe story that took place there'
Guttin says, 'Balar si tehre any way to discuss it now?'
Drethlor says, 'I just want to point out, for the guide's sake, that most of The Catacombs are open to the Public sorry for the interruption .'
Kerowynne says, 'That is one area where Verant already knows we need improvement.'
Athene says, 'Verant's roleplay storylines, that is.'
You say, 'Guttin, could you wait until later... roleplay was expected to be the primary issue tonight.'
Zapz says, 'The kithicor zone is not good for roleplay'
Kerowynne says, 'Especially in such a massive undertaking, where there is much happening on both the good and evil sides, where there is very little cross over, some of the story will be lost to one side or the other.'

Guttin says, 'You all must realize that GM's are constantly SWAMPED by issues'
You say, 'To have a living Novel the players need to know the key characters.'
Guttin says, 'I being a Former Counsilor on the other game Ultima Online Knows this'
You say, 'We need a common storyline for us to weave OUR events around.'
Pinene says, 'I now, but i liked the idea of certain event changing the world is someway bigger than me'
Guttin says, 'Aye'
Athene says, 'I key players need to walk the world more than just at the time of an event.'
You say, 'Exactly Pinene, many players want to be part of a greater story even if their part is small.'
Drethlor says, 'Darktide has a good plotline forming, on the darker side of things, but we are not ready for full public release yet.'
You say, 'Yes Athene, that's how we as leaders can provide those common character names for others to play around.'
Guttin says, 'Actually i think that every religion should have a diffeernt Story line'
Drethlor says, 'I can say it will NOT end in some half contrived fight in the Arena : )'
Kerowynne smiles at Drethlor.
Pinene says, 'Good'
Altea says, 'If I may .'
Drethlor says, 'It does involve a power we are evolving which goes beyond the gods" of Norrath'
Kerowynne says, 'Verant is working on better ways to let more people know what is happening to shape the world. I can't be too specific, but this is an important issue.'
You say, 'I think most everyone here agrees we do NOT want massive zone crashing events, but do want an ongoing storyline so that players can get to know each other and feel involved in a greater story.'
Altea says, 'These are all VERY good ideas; some conflicting, but it is a start. I like that some of the guilds are forging their own way in creating stories'
Athene says, 'Will it eventually be possible for more than two guilds to be at war with one another?'
Pinene says, 'Thats a cool one'
Kerowynne says, 'Unsure Athene. It is something that I can bring up with Verant, however.'
Lwenye says, 'I expect that is a concern, because I have to say that I am not sure of events happening at any time - where can I get the info for my guild?'
Kaia says, 'Balar, I understand where you are coming from, but if we are restricted to wrapping" our storylines around yours, then we are limited again aren't we?'
You say, 'Guides, could you please address the multiple guild war issue with Delanus and Verant?'
Altea says, 'Certainly'
Athene says, 'Every roleplay that my guild has been involved in has had to artifically end at the ARena zone for other players to participate.'
Kerowynne says, 'I have a weekly report discussion with Verant as the representative senior of Bristlebane. I can at least make sure the idea is heard if nothing else.'

Kerowynne jots herself a note.
Kaia nods and agrees with Athene.
You say, 'No, no Kaia, there should be NO restriction to wraping around the official storyline.'
Altea says, 'Before Kerowynne must leave for a meeting, might I ask that you present some of your remaining ideas, so that she will have a full slate to take back with her for discussion with the seniors involved?'

Lemminkainen says, 'If my guild were producing an event, is there a process by which I could invite Verant to be involved?'
Altea says, 'As you know, this is the first of many meetings to meld these ideas, but a good place to start is to lay everything on the table at this time, so that we may have some answers for you at the next )'
Athene says, 'Most of our ideas are discussed on the Guild Council board.'
Kerowynne says, 'I do apologize, honorable ambassadors, but I fear that I am being called from this gathering. As, Altea says, any last thoughts would be good.'
Kerowynne says, 'There is no method of this right now.'
Lwenye says, 'Might I suggest something that came up at my guild meeting last night?'
Altea says, 'Sure, Lwenye, please do )'
Kaia says, 'Please, the multiple guildwar issue is a HUGE one to all of us.'
You say, 'Please read the catacombs board Kerowynne, you'll find our thoughts there.'
Lwenye says, 'I realize I need to put it on the board'
Athene says, 'HUGE'
Altea says, 'I will forward the address on to Kerowynne with my mailing tonight'
Kerowynne nods at Athene.
Lwenye says, 'Well we have a concern with the roleplaying tag - we cannot tell who is on in the guild if our rp tag is on'
Lwenye says, 'As we enjoy roleplay and still like to know who is on - might this somehow be changed'
Narn says, 'Good point'
Kaia says, 'So we would most appreciate it if you could bring it to Verants attention even if they don't do anyting immediately at least they have heard" us.'
You say, 'Our guild does NOT use the roleplaying tag because it makes us anon.'
Altea nods at Kaia.
Lwenye says, 'Yes we have that problem as well'
Lugersith nods.
Kaia says, 'My thanks Altea = )'
Lwenye says, 'And we like the rp tag'
Dreknor says, 'Very good point.'
Lwenye says, 'Anon we understand'
Lwenye says, 'But not rp'
Drethlor says, 'Something like a guildwho" command would do wonders .'
Kaia says, 'I use the RP for other reasons than RP, but that is completely off topic so I won't discuss it.'
Lwenye says, 'Lol )'
Kerowynne says, 'I think that those three main issues - being able to war with multiple guilds, a way to use the roleplaying tag without losing guild affiliation, and a method to invite Verant to share in player run events is probably a good start .'

Lwenye thinks she knows EXACTLy what Kaia means :-)
Kerowynne says, '. . as well as a big bite to chew at once.'
Kerowynne grins.
Lwenye chuckles.
You say, 'It's more than enough to start with Kerowynne'
Xoleres wants cookies and milk.
You say, 'Oh... one big idea.'
Pinene says, 'Sounds good'
Athene says, 'One more thing.'
You say, 'Before you leave Kero.'
Kerowynne says, 'Aye?'
You say, 'Can you ask if Verant can make unique items?'
Xoleres says, 'They do'
Aruyall chuckles.
Dreknor says, 'They already do.'
Xoleres says, 'They don't make enough'
Kerowynne says, 'It can be done, but it requires coding by programmers.'
You say, 'yes, but for specific storylines.'
Athene says, 'The Bristlebane Inn and TAvern would acquaint you well with the roleplaying currently going on on this server.'
Lwenye says, 'Aaah thank you Athene'
Pinene says, 'Ya i need one of those magic horns, ehhe'
Kerowynne says, 'It is not something that can be done by each server GM.'
You say, 'Ok... so to inject an item requires a patch?'
Kerowynne says, 'Aye, I read the Inn quite often.'
Lwenye says, 'Where might I find that link'
Athene says, 'Sending you a tell, Lwenye. Long addy.'
You say, 'Thank you Kerowynne, I'd like to know if Verant will consider doing a few rare items once a month or so for events / stories.'
Kerowynne says, 'Again, my apologies, but I am afraid that I am going to be very* late. Please do let Altea know when you next meeting will be, and I will be happy to share anything that I might have learned.'
Lwenye says, 'Lol ok )'
Montys quietly slips in for a minute.
Aruyall says, 'Bristlebane com has a link to the Inn, Tavern These council boards and more'
Altea says, 'I will stay on, in case there is anything I am able to field )'
Kerowynne says, 'Good luck to you all. And again, I am quite happy to see this involvement.'
You say, 'If you need to find anything use www.bristlebane.com'
Kerowynne smiles warmly.
Athene says, 'True, that would be a good start '
Kerowynne says, 'Take care'
Kerowynne waves.
Altea waves at Kerowynne.
Kaia says, 'Well met Kerowynne and do take care Lady = )'
Zapz waves at Kerowynne.
Montys says, 'Bye Kero. )'
Lwenye says, 'Ok thank you )'
Athene says, 'Thank you for coming.'
Narn bows before Montys.
Lemminkainen bows before Dreknor.
Montys hugs Narn.
Kaia says, 'Hello Montys = )'
Altea says, 'Greetings Montys )'
Montys hugs Xoleres.
Pinene says, 'Oh, is the punctuation gonna get fixed sometime?'
Narn says, 'Balar succuring winds is represnted briefly'
Xoleres says, 'Nice method of traveling'
Aruyall says, 'Hehe'
You say, 'Thank you Narn.'
Altea says, 'Okay Balar, I think now that we have at least addressed the main events with Kero, are there secondary agenda items you wish to cover? )'
Dreknor says, 'So, any other issues or questions Altea or I can address?'
You say, 'Is there anything else important to discuss before we loose anyone to the HoF rally?'
Dreknor says, 'Yeah, what Altea said'
Kaia says, 'I have some guild issues that I must attend to at the moment, I am sorry to call this short, but I must depart thank you for coming guides and well met! Before I go Ihave one last issue, tis a happy issue tho.'
Altea says, 'Sure Kaia )'
You say, 'I want to make sure everone else has a chance to speak (not just me).'
Montys is at 9 minutes 30 seconds.
Athene says, 'My apologies. I am to participate in Halo of Fire's Qeynos to Freeport Rally in 10 minutes. Must head out and get in line.'
Kaia says, 'Because I hope that we will all be friends in the upcoming weeks, years, months I would like to extend and invitation to my wedding next week.'
Lwenye cheers.
Lugersith says, 'Im sorry folks but i must help a lost friend in oasis could anyone sow me please?'
Narn cheers.
Altea says, 'I will definitely be there )'
Lwenye says, 'Congrats )'
Pinene says, 'Oh, is the punctuation gonna get fixed sometime?'
Altea says, 'Which punctuation, Pinene?'
Pinene says, 'Www address com'
Pinene says, 'No dots'
Altea says, 'I see dots'
Kaia says, 'It is next Sunday, at 2pm EST in the Arena in Lake Rathe I would love to see you there, I am marrying my real life hubby online = )'
Pinene says, 'I dont'
Kaia says, 'I see dots.'
Lugersith bows before Lwenye.
Pinene says, 'Wierd, hehe'
You say, 'I see dots.'
Lwenye says, 'Congrats!'
Pinene says, 'When peopele send me things like that i dont see dots'
Narn says, 'I dont'
Lwenye says, 'I have the problem with punctuation too'
Lugersith says, 'Thank you all i must be going. sorry to haf to dash this way'
Altea says, 'Hmm, really not sure why you don't, Pinene scratches head*'
Lwenye says, 'Maybe it is only in tell'
Xoleres says, 'Oh'
Pinene says, 'Good im no the only one'
Xoleres says, 'I want to say something, I almost forgot'
Lemminkainen as an aside, would like to see proper grammer in the program.
Xoleres says, 'About Sylvene's Event calender'
Altea says, 'Yes Xoleres?'
Lugersith tells you, 'Lemme know when to show up to the next and i will communicate that to my guild'
Kaia says, 'My thanks = ) Come if ye like, I would be honored if any of ye can attend, Altea will be performing the ceremony = ) Now I must go.'
Lwenye says, 'No you aren't Pinene I have the trouble as well especially with email addies'
Altea bows before Kaia.
Kaia poofs.
Xoleres says, 'Halo of Fire proceeded to plan an event they had no knowledge of, which isn't really the best way to go about doing that'
Xoleres says, 'For instance, never even seen a dragon before, then announcing a dragon raid . I try to honor all requests, unfortunately I found out friday the respect is not returned to me'
Xoleres says, 'If I plan to go out of my way for all guilds, and individuals, I should expect it returned, and it was not Friday Morning, at 5 30 am, when Vox was brought down'
You say, 'Xoleres, you are encouraging usage of the Event calendar.'
Dreknor says, 'Not quite sure I follow you, Xolares.'
Xoleres says, 'I was .'
Xoleres says, 'I'm not so sure now'
Dreknor says, 'OH, now I follow you.'
Xoleres says, 'Arturo's post did not reflect my views by the way'
Xoleres says, 'If you happen to have read that'
Dreknor is a bit absent-minded this evening.
You say, 'I'd like to encourage the Ambassador's to follow events and make sure THEY pass the info on other guilds events to ttheir guild.'
Xoleres says, 'The problem is not with guilds Balar'
Xoleres says, 'I present to you the problem of individuals who take things into their own hands'
Lwenye says, 'I am giving the link to all my guildmembers'
Xoleres says, 'I won't name names, I never do'
Xoleres says, 'But they are being covered by their guilds, essentially they are, in so many words, harboring criminals'
You say, 'Xoleres, I think all we can do is try to improve the situatioin... we will never have 100Xoleres, I think all we can do is try to improve the situatioin... we will never have 100% support and cooperation.upport and cooperation.'
Rodnik says, 'Agreed Balar'
You say, 'Our value as Ambassadors is to improve communication.'
Xoleres says, 'Improvement has always been my goal, but being stepped on is where I draw the line'
Lwenye nods.
You say, 'Xoleres, I'd recommend you bring the topic up on the Catacombs board for the Ambassadors to discuss.'
Xoleres says, 'I intend to, I was waiting for a response first, which I just learned has been posted to by boards'
You say, 'These in game meetings will never be able to resolve difficult and heated topics.'
Xoleres says, 'For some, nothing we do will concern them'
Drethlor says, 'So what sort of number so we have now in regards to Good, Evil and Neutral guilds on the Council ?'
Xoleres says, 'They go where they want, kill what they please, and so long as they are covered by their guilds they continue to at level 50'
You say, 'We have thirty guilds on the Ambassador list and prob about three or four more joining from today.'
Drethlor says, 'I don't think we have that many signed on to the Catacombs .'
Pinene says, 'Ack'
Xoleres says, 'Ok, I must go now'
You say, 'Some have told me they were not responded to by you Drethlor.'
Pinene says, 'What i mess'
Altea says, 'Unfortunately, I must go as well, for the rally. Was VERY nice to meet you all, and I look forward to constructively working with you )'
You say, 'Thank you Xoleres..'
Rodnik says, 'I will take my leave as well'
Narn bows before Altea.
Drethlor says, 'Hmm the board has a Queue and I have no apps in it. I also answer all the email I get. Mayeb they had my adx wrong .'
Altea says, 'And most of all thank you again for your efforts to work together to improve Bristlebane; they do not go unnoticed )'
You say, 'Possibly I'll have them give me info and try to pass along... review my listing on our page too every now and then.'
Lwenye waves.
Lwenye says, 'Farewell all'
Pinene says, 'Bye'
Zapz says, 'Goodbye'
Pinene says, 'Well balar, this was interesting'
You say, 'I'll stay for a bit and answer questions of anyone that might want to know more of my discussions with kero and Altea.'
Drethlor says, 'They can always just go to the Catacombs and then into Edit Profile for the Instant Registration screen'
Zapz bows before Balar.
Narn says, 'Hold a moment'
Balar bows before Zapz.
Dreknor says, 'DOH!'
Narn says, 'Montys apologizes that her guild could not attend'
Pinene says, 'Hehe'
Zapz says, 'What do you need'
Dreknor says, 'ALtea ran off and left me, eh?'
Narn says, 'She will be represented at the next meeting'
You say, 'Yes, she did Dreknor (smile)'
Zapz says, 'Goodbye and safe journies all'
Dreknor chuckles.
Narn says, 'Thank you'
Pinene says, 'That was quicker then i explected'
Dreknor says, 'At any rate, thanks for inviting us. I hope some of the ideas presented come to fruition )'
Lemminkainen says, 'Did I miss anything the last five minutes? Client crashed.'
You say, 'Sorry... Lemminkainen... I'll try and post a log on the Catacombs site.'