An in game meeting of the Ambassador's Council was held on Saturday March 18.  Guide Vasque was the primary representative for Verant. (the log
is from Balar's perspective so You = Balar)  Here is the log:

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Vasque waves at Balar.
Alokut bows before Vasque.
Ainen shouts, 'Anyone seen my corpse'
Vasque waves at Alokut.
You say, 'Greetings everyone.'
Balar at your service.
Temyez says, 'Greetings'
Axial says, 'Hello'
Pinene says, 'Hello balar'
Lemminkainen says, 'Evening, Balar.'
Alokut says, 'Well Met'
Athene tells you, 'On my way.'
You told vasque, 'Any idea what happenned to Athelan?'
You told Athene, 'Ok... we are just inside the tunnel.'
Vasque tells you, 'He's at lunch right now'
You told Vasque, 'Ok... ETA?'
Vasque tells you, 'Not sure, should be soon'
Temyez says, 'Nice wedding ceremony eh, Vasque?'
You say, 'Athene indicates she is on her way.'
Vasque tells you, 'He's been gone for about 45 mins'
Vasque says, 'Aye )'
Temyez says, 'She was at the Wedding.'
You told Vasque, 'Ok... I'm sure we can be patient.'
You say, 'I suspect this may be too open of an area and we may pick up a lot of stray people passing through.'
Lemminkainen says, 'You will give him stuff. I will give him strong drink. What could be better than booze?'
Vasque says, 'But, I need a lttle one'
Vasque says, 'Have to be able to use it as a toothpick'
Bombaz shouts, 'Kill dem dump guawds ! dey killed me poor Ogaw 3 times and dint even let me run away ('
Vasque says, 'Those gnomes pieces get stuck in my teeth ya know'
Odanseer says, 'No worries i'll have one of dem swords you got soon as my party can get past fourth island'
Vasque says, 'Crunchy little suckers they are'
Temyez says, 'Hehehehe'
Alokut says, 'You do not really eat Gnomes do you?'
Vasque says, 'Sure I do!'
Odanseer says, 'Of course he does'
Alokut says, 'It is a sad day when we stand helpless against that type of evil'
Vasque says, 'Gnomes are good eating'
Sioned says, 'So are paladins eg>'
Vasque says, 'Cept for the ones with the holes in their heads .'
Odanseer says, 'Aye just don't try wit da dwarves we slice ya good'
You told sioned, 'Welcome to the meeting.'
Vasque says, 'Bah, dorfs smell too bad to eat'
Pinene says, 'Whist'
Sioned tells you, 'Just heard about it'
Odanseer says, 'Ba '
Alokut says, 'Perhaps someday the forces of light shall show you the error of your taste in food'
Sioned tells you, 'What exactly is this about'
You told Sioned, 'Each guild has an ambassador, we are here to work together and improve the game.'
Vasque says, 'Instead of fighting you should revert your efforts to teaching your women how to shave'
You told Sioned, 'This meeting is to meet the new GM.'
Odanseer says, 'Too bad it's a once every freakin 8 hour drop'
Dethfist says, 'Hehe'
Odanseer says, 'Pali stuff is once every like 20 minutes drop'
Odanseer says, 'They got it too easy'
Temyez lowers his head.
Odanseer says, 'Good day need money heh'
Zurten says, 'Wow'
Zurten says, 'That is sooo cool looking'
Vasque says, 'Munchies are here!'
Zurten kneels before Vasque in humility and reverence.
You told Sioned, 'Largely this is roleplay oriented, but some wished to discuss the play nice policy.'
Vasque looks at Zurten and licks his lips.
Pinene says, 'Haha'
Muirlan says, 'Hail Friends'
Temyez says, 'Hehehe'
I don't see anyone by that name around here...
Lemminkainen thinks Gnomes shouldn't get too close to Vasque...
Balar bows before Muirlan.
Pinene says, 'U better stand back, i think he hungry'
Sioned tells you, 'Hehe how about fix the duel bugs like peole dying to my dots or pet and losing exp'
Zurten says, 'May i ask the stats on the sword?'
Vasque says, 'I can't eat right now I'm hung over'
Alokut says, 'I would run fast if I were you Zurtan, Vasque has a taste for gnome as a main dish'
Vasque says, 'Had too much to drink at the wedding'
Xaio says out of character, 'WTB mesh cured silkk, an wus guantlets'
You told Sioned, 'We'd love to get all that fixed... we wish to communicate to Verant that those issues are important to us.'
Fionnia has defeated Devoss in a duel to the death!
Faelicia says, 'Hail all!'
Temyez says, 'Too much Celebrating at the Wedding, hehehehe'
Faelicia says, 'Hi balar'
Balar bows before Faelicia.
Sioned tells you, 'Mulit guild war too )'
Faelicia bows before Balar.
You say, 'Nice to see you made it Faelicia.'
You told Sioned, 'That is the primary reason Light vs Darkness was made.'
Zurten says, 'But i am not a gnome i am a .'
Faelicia says, 'Only took me 2 minutes . and i even got booted in that )'
Zurten says, 'Dark elf! P'
Temyez says, 'HAHAHAHAHA'
Vasque says, 'I eat Dark Elves too p'
Astris snaps to attention and salutes Pinene crisply.
You say, 'Sigh... I really think we should go back to meeting in my hold.... less riff raff.'
Zurten says, 'What about . high elfs . )'
Athene says, 'Hail'
Astris bows before Pinene.
Alokut says, 'I see that the gnomes have a great defense against your type Vasque, hehe'
Vasque says, 'High Elves are repulsive'
Pinene waves at Astris.
Temyez says, 'Greetings Athene'
Astris says, 'Hi pine'
Sioned says, in Troll, 'Hewwo Dithfist iffa rat Snottzster iz bashin round telll him hewwo fek me'
Faelicia tells you, 'Why is this guy in green ?'
Astris says, 'How are you?'
Pinene says, 'Im well'
Dethfist says, 'Hehe, me will, he sleepy now'
Balar bows before Athene.
Muirlan says, 'Greetings Athene'
Athene bows before Balar.
Astris says, 'Good to hear'
Zurten says, 'I got an idea P'
Temyez says, 'Ooops'
Zurten says, 'May i please habe dead man floating?'
Sioned says, in Troll, 'Nar ju can see m '
Astris says, 'Been up to much?'
Sioned says, in Troll, 'Ask in my tknque then mayhe )'
You say, 'Now if our GM would finish eating and return (grin).... perhaps Vasque can do PR for Verant in the meantime.'
Zurten says, 'I am now a coin!'
Balar bows before Salar.
Vasque tells you, 'Having people with green names in a traffic route like this is going to attract alot of attention'
You told salar, 'Greetings and welcome.'
Salar tells you, 'Thank you'
Astris waves at Pinene.
Trifle says, 'Hi all. sorry i'm a bit late'
Astris snaps to attention and salutes Pinene crisply.
You told Vasque, 'Yes... that's why I prefer High Hold Keep but they told me the guides couldn't go in there.'
Salar tells you, 'Sioned and I are here to speak for the ToI'
Vasque tells you, 'Guides can go there, Apprentices just cannot hang out there'
You told Salar, 'Great, we are honored to have you here.'
Temyez says, 'Greetings Trifle'
Zurten says, 'May i please have a buff anyone'
You told Vasque, 'Ahh.. ok...'
Nehpets says out of character, 'What can I hunt at lvl 4?'
Trifle says, 'SOWed all the way from Rathe, and ignoring falling damage )'
Zurten says, 'I have a goooood question . why is everyone here?'
Alokut's spell fizzles!
You say, 'Ok... perhaps we can get this started now.'
Petittee says out of character, 'Level 8 enchantress looking for group'
You say, 'Vasque, perhaps you could start off with a few words about the Play Nice policy?'
Zurten says, 'I buffed a /'
Silentfoot says out of character, '100 peeps in nro?'
Zurten says, 'Oops'
Sioned grins evilly at Dethfist.
Vasque says, 'Not really sure what you would like me to say on it but I would be more than happy to answer any questions you all have on the policy'
Athene says, 'The Play Nice Policy?'
You say, 'How about just an intro on it.'
Pinene says, 'Any abuses of it yt?'
You say, 'How you expect it to impact us?'
Alokut says, 'Is it in effect now?'
Sioned says, in Troll, 'Yes'
Vasque says, 'Well, this is the basics of the Policy. It was created to try and help the player comunity be able to interact ina more social and friendly manner.'
Athene thinks it's an awful policy and doesn't care what the poll report was.
You told silentfoot, 'Greetings... this is the Ambassador Council meeting please feel free to have a seat and listen.'
Silentfoot tells you, 'Whats it for?'
Vasque says, 'At the same time it gave the Guides on each server the power to help the players in cases such as KS'ing and harrassment'
You told Silentfoot, 'All the guilds working together with Verant to improve the game.'
Alokut says, 'I too am very conserned on how the vote was presented'
Silentfoot tells you, 'Verant improve game?'
Vasque says, 'What concerns did you have?'
Chasyu says, 'What's everyone doing here?'
Temyez says, 'Personally I don't see it as a problem.'
You told chasyu, 'Ambassador Council meeting.'
Athene says, 'I think most of us play fair as it is.'
Muirlan says, 'If I may interject here . I as well as others see the policy opening the door for MORE kill stealing in the form of fair sharin''
Vasque tells you, 'The Play Nice policy is prolly a good thing to talk about there is alot of misunderstandin concerning it'
Chasyu tells you, 'For what? all guilds?'
Alokut says, 'On one had it say no kill stealing, but on the other is seems to encourage it'
You told Chasyu, 'Yes.'
You told vasque, 'Yes.. please educate everyone.'
Sioned says, 'Its not overtly bad but i have already seen smone be quite rude about it already'
Chasyu tells you, 'Hmm I don' t think our guild has a rep here'
Alokut says, 'Aye me too'
Trifle says, 'Indeed, Muirlan. It would, for example, be possible for somebody to time spawns, be fighting somewhere else, and gate back in time to share .'
Vasque says, 'Ok, lets start by saying this Do I understand correctly by saying the most confusing part is the contested spawn section?'
You told Chasyu, 'Feel free to have your leader contact me to appoint one... and stay and listen if you'd like.'
Tenil says, 'Indeed'
Muirlan says, 'I would think so Vasque'
Vasque says, 'Let me go over contested spawns a bit then'
Athene says, 'Breaking up spawns isn't easy. It's a challenge, and if someone does it, they should have the right to sit there until they wish to leave.'
Vasque says, 'I'll start with what someone just mentioned timing a spawn and gating out'
Trifle says, 'Too right, Athene'
Athene says, 'Or Verant should give us a more vast world to hunt. We aren't the problem.'
Vasque says, 'In order to have rights to a spawn and ask for that spawn to be shared, the person must stay and hunt at that spawn'
Vasque says, 'You can't say bind there stay for a kill then gate out coming back when it's your turn" for a spawn'
Vasque says, 'Either you hunt there or you don't'
You say, 'I don't think anyone is doubting that a bigger world would be great... but our reason for being here is to figure out how to improve the world we have... how Verant implements Play Nice is a big factor in that.'
Salar says, 'But could a group just leave one person in each of servel spown point to share in them, and have the miain group come in when needed?'
Trifle says, 'Well, as long as those are the rules, that solves the gating in problem.'
Alokut says, 'What of extremely rare drops liek GB? It took me over 40 hours to get mine '
Muirlan says, 'May I play out a scenario and ask how Verant would handle it?'
Temyez says, 'Aren't these new rules OPEN to interpretation by GM's on an individual basis?'
You say, 'Vasque, doesn't that imply a problem with expecting guides to be referees?  And there isn't enough staff for that!'
Vasque says, 'Hehe, 1 question at a time please )'
Larydalizard says, 'Hiya dethfist'
Sioned says, 'I was just going to suggest that vas )'
Lemminkainen nods at Grimm.
Vasque says, 'Like me start with some of the basics behind what is needed in order for a person to ask for a sharing in a spawn'
Larydalizard says, 'Sery bout not joining skwad but joined darkside in a war'
You told grimm, 'G'vening and welcome.'
Grimm tells you, 'Good ta see ya brother'
Vasque says, 'In order for a group" to ask to be included, they must be able to hold that spawn without the help of the others there'
You told Grimm, 'Aye, let's give Vasque a chance to explain the Play Nice policy.'
Athene raises a hand.
Temyez raises an eyebrow.
Vasque says, 'Athene?'
You say, 'The council acknowledges Athene.'
Pinene says, 'Let him finish deary'
Athene says, 'What do you mean by included? Part of group or rotation of the spawn?'
Jeekatta has defeated Dalana in a duel to the death!
Vasque says, 'Rotation of a spawn. You are never required to add someone to your group'
Vasque says, 'Your group choices are yours and yours alone'
Athene says, 'Thank you'
Sioned says, 'That is good to know'
Temyez nods approval.
Vasque says, 'Let me give you an example of this'
Players in EverQuest:
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* Apprentice Guide *[20 Wizard] Mysticore (Dark Elf) ZONE: innothule
* Apprentice Guide *[20 Druid] Correlian (Wood Elf) ZONE: qeynos2
* Guide *[50 Enchanter] Vasque (Dark Elf) < Order of Bristlebane > ZONE: nro
* Apprentice Guide *[19 Necromancer] Manndarr (Dark Elf) ZONE: eastkarana
There are 4 players in EverQuest.
Vasque says, 'Say you are at a spawn that is needs to be held by a full group of level 15's'
Tradactus says, 'Whats going on?'
Pinene says, 'Shhh'
Vasque says, 'If a solo level 15 comes up and wants in and can take 1 of the mobs, but could not hold the spawn they do not have to be included.'
You told tradactus, 'Ambassador's Council meeting.'
Vasque says, 'But, say a level 19 comes and can hold the spawn solo, then you will need to share'
Sioned says, 'Spawn meaning the whole room spawn or the single?'
Vasque says, 'Depends on what exactly the spawn" is'
Alokut raises ?!?? hand.
Vasque says, 'Say the Lord room in Lower Guk, it the whole room and area.'
Sioned says, 'Most major rooms sometimes i do belive have more than 1 npc'
Vasque says, 'Alokut?'
You say, 'Vasque, how are you going to determine who can "hold" a spawn? I've been told my groups usually play well above their level... that is not an easy thing to determine.'
Alokut says, 'What if th elvl 19 gets no xp?'
Vasque says, 'Whether or not a person gets experience does not matter'

Tenil says, 'So yeild run is out'

Vasque says, 'There is no yeild rule'
Sioned says, 'Back to the lower g lord room'
Sioned says, 'Example'
Trickee tells the guild, 'Can i lvl 9) take a friend lvl 2) hunting and get him exp or is the gap to big .'
Vasque says, 'One second Sioned'
Vasque says, 'Balar had asked something'
Eliab tells the guild, 'No way'
Sioned says, 'No prob m'lord'
You say to your guild, 'Too big'
Vasque says, 'Balar: We won't just walk in and determine group strength. It's in obvious cases when we are called in that we will make that call'
Trickee tells the guild, 'K thanx'
Reinhart has defeated Raisk in a duel to the death!
Vasque says, 'Such as when lower level people are using higher level groups to pull beyond their means.'
Faelicia tells you, 'Will we have note of all that is said tonight by e mail or something ?'
You say, 'If I may interject again Vasque, isn't that leaving a lot of room for bickering among the players... where they will attempt to implement the policy by THEIR definition?'
Vasque says, 'And as always, we will spend some time investigating before a decision is made.'
You told Faelicia, 'Usually someone logs it.'
Faelicia tells you, 'Ok'
Athene raises a hand again.
Vasque says, 'Honestly, at first we forsee alot of players trying to abuse and bicker because of the new policy. But, we believe that over time everything will balance itself.'
You told athene, 'Probably best to just butt right in (patiently)... it might generate too much spam to "acknowledge" each person.'
Vasque says, 'Sioned your question you had before?'
Athene tells you, 'Okay )'
Vasque says, 'Sioned?'
You say, 'How about Athene and then Tenil, until Sioned is ready to repeat question?'
Vasque says, 'That sounds good'
You told Athene, 'Speak up.'
Athene says, 'I just want you to clarify.'
Sioned says, 'I belive it was you said if a 19 could come along and hold the spawn solo then u should share and i was wanting clarification on the spwan''
Athene says, 'So if a spawn is contested, we should wait until you come to decide the issue?'
The spirit of wolf leaves you.
Sioned says, 'Hold the whole room spawn or the solo'
Athene says, 'We do not have to assume that we or the other party understands the rule.'
Sioned says, 'You started to use the king room in lower g as example'
Vasque says, 'Let me define a spawn really quick'
Vasque says, 'A spawn is all the mobs that would be encountered in order to reach an end result'
Athene says, 'All?'
Vasque says, 'ALL'
Sioned says, 'So'
Vasque says, 'So, as per the GB question earlier'
Vasque says, 'If a group could not handle keeping the room and surrounding area clear in order to havea go at the lord'
You say, 'Vasque, would this be a fair summary: all groups are expected to share all spawn spots... if a group feels another group has butted in prematuredly to steal a big drop item then a guide should be called to mediate the disagreement?'
Sioned says, 'If you are in the king room lets say which has teh boks and king if solo he could not clear the room you do not have to yield unless he was with a group capable of doing himself'
Vasque says, 'They would not get a rotation on the Lord, since they can't handle the spawn"'
Temyez raises an eyebrow.
Trifle says, 'Seems clear to me.'
Vasque says, 'Balar: Yes'
Sioned says, 'Thank you m'lord'
Vasque says, 'Sioned: Yes'
Galuf says, 'Selling PGT'
Trifle raises a hand.
Vasque says, 'So, don't expect us to come and say you have to share that Ghoul Lord spawn with a solo Mage just because he can kill the lord but nothing else'
You told trifle, 'Please speak up.'
Vasque says, 'Trifle?'
Galuf says, 'Selling PGT'
Sioned says, 'Try on auction galuf'
Trifle says, 'What of the other main issue? A group breaks a tough room .'
Vasque says, 'Disclaimer: If I miss your hand raised I'm sorry trying to do my best )'
Boulderx tells the guild, 'Hello balar'
Muirlan says, 'You are doing fine'
Faelicia says, 'Don't blame ya!'
Boulderx tells the guild, 'Heard alot about you how are you?'
Trifle says, '. . and others then come in and demand to share?'
Athene says, 'You are doing well. We, or I, appreciate your being here.'
Temyez says, 'Yes'
You say to your guild, 'Busy with the Ambassador's Council meeting.'
Trifle says, 'Even is they could handle breaking, they didnt do all the hard work.'
Vasque says, 'Breaking a spawn does not entitle you to that spawn'
Trickee tells the guild, 'What do i do with rondor's tongue .'
Boulderx tells the guild, 'Ohh hehe one of those'
Sioned says, 'If they are capable of doing the run then they can contest the share'
Boulderx tells the guild, 'Never figured that one out'
Trifle says, 'What? Not even to greater rights than others who get in piggyback style?'
Vasque says, 'When you break a spawn, you do so fully knowing that another may come along and wish to share that spawn'
Boulderx tells the guild, 'You need like 3 other tongues'
Boulderx tells the guild, 'Peg leg is another'
Trifle says, 'Well, bang goes that incentive!'
Boulderx tells the guild, 'Zone'
Trickee tells the guild, 'Stupid tongue is all slimy .'
Trifle sighs, clearly disappointed.
Zabekn says 'Guarding you Master'
Vasque says, 'But, let me add on to that'
Kumaelin says, 'Hail'
Galuf says, 'Spare change anyone ?'
Salar Raises his hand.
Sioned says, 'You beg skill failed'
Alokut says, 'That seems to be the big bone of contention'
Sioned says, 'Your'
Vasque says, 'Granted you do not own" a spawn because you have broken the spawn'
Galuf says, 'Spare change anyone ?'
Vasque says, 'But, with alot of what the play nice rules will cause is players working together and solving issues themselves'
Athene says, 'Well, I think one should, but I don't guess that matters.'
Muirlan says, 'Please Galuf were are holding a meeting here'
Zeber says 'As you wish, oh great one'
Vasque says, 'A side effect of this is often players determining for themselves how spawns are run'
Trifle tells you, 'Maybe the GM should summon us somewhere quiet for the next meeting .'
Bombaz's spell fizzles!
Galuf tells you, 'Hi im aeres'
Galuf tells you, 'Remember me?'
You told Galuf, 'Please don't disturb the meeting.'
Athene says, 'Weren't we already doing this?'
Vasque says, 'A good example comes from my actual play server and how we do the planes'
Alokut says, 'The good guys do it already, this just seems to give the jerks a tool to use in their favor'
Gabantik says 'As you wish, oh great one'
Galuf tells you, 'Meanie punk!'
You told trifle, 'Well, I wanted to hold it in High Hold Keep but they told me the lower level guides were NOT allowed in there.'
Galuf tells you, 'Idiot!'
Trifle tells you, '? ?'
You have added galuf to your IGNORE list.
Athene tells you, 'Tell Salar to ask his question as you didn me. ) They are very formal.'
Vasque says, 'We would reserve the plane and then all other would RESPECT that reservation. If you already do this and have it set up this way, not much will really change'
Trifle tells you, 'What about a summon to CSHome .'
You told salar, 'Please speak up and ask your question.'
You told Trifle, 'That'd be good!!!'
Vasque says, 'Alokut: That is a point, but on another note'
Glug, glug, glug...  Bombaz takes a swig of Short Beer.
Salar tells you, 'He covered it'
Trifle tells you, 'I'll bring it up later )'
You told salar, 'Ok good.'
Vasque says, 'Players are now being forced to work together. People like that are not going to last long in the world if they wish to be jerks'
You told Trifle, 'I'll mention it if Athelan ever shows!'
Kumaelin pokes Dethfist.
Vasque says, 'In a sense, the player community has been empowered to handle alot of the issues that arise'
Sanction says, 'Did you all bring your hymm books?'
You say, 'Vasque, so we should interpret this as everyone should work together to share and if we feel we shouldn't share for some reason then we ask a guide for an interpretation?'
Temyez says, 'Sound like the nail on the head Balar!'
Sioned raises ¶ hand.
Tenil raises his hand.
Vasque says, 'Basically think of it this way. Everyone should always share for any reason. If for some reason sharing is not occuring, or there is a problem with one who wishes to infringe upon the sharing rules, then contact a guide.'
Vasque says, 'Tenil after sioned'
Vasque says, 'Ok, sioned passed, Tenil? )'
Tenil says, 'On the subject of under strength parties'
Tenil says, 'I often fight with a group how maybe classed as under strengthed for a spawn'
Ruagmoss says, 'Not to pester anyone here but could i get a sow . Someone trained sg on our group'
Tenil says, 'This afternoon we held the shadowman spawn in SK if a more powerfull group came along and contested the spawn would we have had to give it up'
Vasque says, 'As per the Play Nice Rules, you would not have to give it up, but you would have to share.'
Kumaelin says, 'Share the named?'
Euphorius has defeated Sondl in a duel to the death!
Elmadien says, 'Is this an open meeting? I have a comment .'
Muirlan raises hand.
Tenil says, 'I acept that'
You told elmadien, 'Do you represent a guild?'
Lemminkainen thinks we need a less-travelled location next time.
Vasque says, 'Muirlan?'
Muirlan says, 'Thank you, my question is this'
You say, 'Would the guides be able to summon the ambassador's somewhere quiet?'
Muirlan says, 'Suppose that a group holds the Efreeti in Sol B .'
Muirlan says, 'After hours of waiting for a drop of the boots .'
Muirlan says, 'Another group fights theie way in also'
Castiran has defeated Reelen in a duel to the death! Reelen has fled like a cowardly dog!
Elmadien tells you, 'I represent Crusaders of Lore .'
Muirlan says, 'Under the new policy'
Muirlan says, 'This would call for a rotation of the spawn'
You told Elmadien, 'Ok, then please feel free to represent them as ambassador if they have no other... and contact me via email to be added to the list.'
You say, 'Elmadien would like to represent Crusaders of Lore and has a question... please speak up Elmadien.'
Muirlan says, 'As the boots or the Efreeti for that matter is a long wait will the drop rates be changed?'
Sioned says, 'Im hungry for a pasty'
Vasque says, 'As for drop rates of any mobs, we are not told if changes will be made.'
Muirlan says, 'Do you know if this is a issue with the decision makers?'
Elmadien says, 'As to the new play nice" policy. Are the gm's and guides going to be ready for the flood of problems and questions it may create? Is Verant planning on hiring more guides?'
Athene thinks that is a very good question.
Temyez raises an eyebrow.
Vasque says, 'Muirlan: Honestly, we are not told about the changes that will be made to the game like that, so I cannot in all honesty repsonde with a legitamate answer.'
You say, 'Guides are volunteers... they are not hired... the question should be will Verant recruit more guides?  And how much power will they give them?'
Vasque says, 'As for the last question asked .'
Vasque says, 'Currently we are still understaffed on this server. We are aware of this problem and are working on resolving the issue'
Vasque says, 'We will continue to bring in around 10 Apprentices per week until a time where we have all time slots filled and covered adequatly'
You say, 'We are concerned about the guide staff and their ability to "help" we have been lead to believe the former staff was dispursed because they were "too helpful"'
Elmadien says, 'I can understand that problem of guides being too helpful that brings up a whole new conversation.'
Vasque says, 'I can garuntee to you that we will reach full strength'
Athene says, 'And full strength is determined how?'
Vasque says, 'Full Strength is determined by every time slot being filled with full coverage 24 7'
Tenil says, 'By how many guides'
Athene says, 'Covered by one or by ten or by 25?'
Vasque says, 'In addition to that also having 5 10 Apprentice guides onboard at all times'
Trifle says, 'Whats the current percentage coverage?'
Jeekatta has defeated Dalana in a duel to the death!
Chasyu says, 'Not to be rude . but I must exuse myself as my guild had a prior meeting which I am late for .'
Vasque says, 'Peak hours are covered by 4 guides plus apprentices'
Temyez says, 'As is usually the case, if a guide or GM is not available during the actual Problem" will there be possible reprecussions to the parties involved at a later time?'
Elmadien says, 'One way you might be able to cut down on Guide and GM work is to request that Players go to there guilds with any problems they might have before jumping to a GM. Much of the time a person in your guild may be able and willing to help .'
Vasque says, 'Yes, and there has been for sometime'
Vasque says, 'You always have the option of using report'
Vasque says, 'The correct way to use this is as follows'
Talic has defeated Jorgann in a duel to the death! Jorgann has fled like a cowardly dog!
Vasque says, 'Use the report command followed by selecting the proper people. then File a petition so we know to check for that report'
Vasque says, 'If you do not petition in addition to doing a report, then it will do no good'
Vasque says, 'I lost track of who was next )'
You say, 'Would the current staff be willing to work with the Ambassador's Council so that we can help out with the newbies that are likely to be unaware of these details?'
Friski grabs hold of Friski and begins to dance with him.
Sioned says, 'Hit shift up )'
Vasque says, 'Shift up only goes so far )'
Vasque says, 'As Guides we are always willing to work and interact with the player community. That is also part of our jobs'
Athene says, 'Vasque, have the GM rotations ended? Will you remain our GM?'
Vasque says, 'I'm not your GM )'
Athene says, 'Or our guide?'
Athene wonders why our GM isn't here taking the heat.
Vasque says, 'I believe I will be here for awhile. Currently I am the training Lt for this server.'
Sioned hopes hez a dark elf <wg>
Vasque says, 'My job is to bring in all the new Apprentices and oversee their training'
Correlian hopes Vasque will be around for quite some time.
You say, 'Vasque, that is very different from what we have always been told before... and I was told DIRECTLY by the lead GM Admin Daegarmo.'
Vasque says, 'Balar: Understand this .'
Vasque says, 'We will always interact with players by answering questions and helping people understand'
Vasque says, 'But, there are limitations to what we can do for players'
Temyez nods with hopefullness.
Vasque says, 'Such as, we cannot help with player run quests'
Sioned covers her ears.
Athene says, 'What about our guild war problems?'
Vasque says, 'Things like this though we call answer circles, and they are very much encouraged'
Trifle says, 'That brings us quite neatly along to the dark vs light guildwar )'
Vasque says, 'What about guild war problems?'
Temyez says, 'Yes, it does'
You say, 'But if I as a "leader" in the player community bring an issue to you on behalf of another player will I be told that you don't want to talk with me because you are afraid of "favoristism"?'
Athene says, 'We lose experience due to pets killing players and DoTs.'
Nemx hands Friski a cough louzenge.
Sioned says, 'Sigh yes ive killed many and they lost exp'
Athene says, 'It makes guild war untenable. We can't do it.'
Vasque says, 'Ok, if at anytime a player needs help they should always contact us themselves'
Tenil looks away inocently.
Athene says, 'My guild always loses our wars, so this is a biggie to us.'
You say, 'Ok, let's not get off on the "favoritism" problem (my pet issue).... let's continue with the multi guild war and guild war problems and the Light vs Darkness concept.'
Vasque says, 'Are for exp lose in guild wars'
You have been removed from the group.
Vasque says, 'Honestly as Guides and GM's go, we cannot correct that problem'
Vasque says, 'The best way to handle that would be to have everyone submit a feedback and a bug saying what is wrong'
Pinene says, 'But you can direct advise more readily back to varent'
You say, 'Will you bring the problems to the attention of Verant for us?'
Tenil says, 'Could exp be restored'
Athene says, 'How difficult is it to fix the problem of experience loss for players who die to a pet. I've been there and done that, and I'd really like to know.'
Sioned says, 'Exp is most times if a guide etc is avail'
Vasque says, 'I do not know how hard it would be, that is a programming issue'
Sioned says, 'But tis not full exp'
Trifle says, 'Is it classed as a bug?'
Sioned says, 'Necros suffer yes'
Temyez winks at Faelicia.
Athene pleades with Vasque to ask this question of the Norrathian gods.
Vasque says, 'It is not one of the verified bugs that we will res for'
Athene says, 'It's not classified as a bug.'
Temyez bows before Faelicia.
Athene says, 'You just die and hope that you get a ress, and you will still lose experience.'
Whitemoon has defeated Darksight in a duel to the death! Darksight has fled like a cowardly dog!
You say, 'Vasque, we would greatly appreciate it if you would note and convey to Verant that a major concern for us is exp loss during guildwar.'
Sioned says, 'I say we vote it should be ) i could demonstrat '
Sioned eyes the pasties ;)
Temyez says, 'Hehehe'
Vasque says, 'Balar: You bug reports get to verant and the programmers before ours ever do.'
Athene looks for a pet of Sioned.
Pinene says, 'No player vs player event or action should cause the loss of exp on a non pvp server'
Vasque says, 'That is why sometime ago it was listed that you should use those channels'
You say, 'Not to be rude Vasque but Verant's Tech Support emails back WRONG information.'
Athene agrees with Pinene.
Sioned says, 'But tis been a prob for sometime oh well ) i'll wait till they ar e50'
Vasque says, 'I'm not talking about Tech Support'
Vasque says, 'This is not a Tech Support issue'
Vasque says, 'It is a programming one.'
Sioned says, 'Its coding'
You say, 'It is when players ask Tech support if they will lose exp and Tech support emails them back that guildwar is perfectly safe and they will NOT lose exp.'
Athene says, 'Could the code be re written to see" a PC's pet as a PC?'
Sioned says, 'I don't believe he can answer code based questions all'
Kumaelin thanks Elmadien heartily.
Vasque says, 'Note on all coding questions: I do not have any information on coding so I can't really answer those questions.'
You say, 'Athene, I don't think Vasque can speak for the programming... he is right... we need to bring that to the programming staff... so how do we do that Vasque?'
Muirlan raises his hand.
Jorgann has defeated Wulftyger in a duel to the death!
Vasque says, 'For things that need to be fixed in programming, that is what the bug command is for.'
Vasque says, 'There are e mails listed on the website, but I personally would stick to using feedback and bug'
You say, 'LOL.... /bug Everquest (grin) ...... sigh... just couldn't help that one.'
Twean says, 'Whats going on'
Faelicia says, 'Wait a sec why don't we all bug right now ?'
Jovendar says, 'Thx )'
Athene submits bug report.
You told faelicia, 'Because we don't want to crash the server.'
Vasque thinks Faelicia has a good idea.
Faelicia says, 'All at the same time . mayvbe they'd check it!'
Faelicia tells you, 'Hehehe'
Sioned tells you, 'Could we get everyone to sit and not cast? )'
Reinhart has defeated Raisk in a duel to the death! Raisk has fled like a cowardly dog!
Minimus has defeated Itaewon in a duel to the death! Itaewon has fled like a cowardly dog!
Faelicia says, 'If we all do it at the same time they won't have the choice to check it!'
Muirlan raises his hand.
You told Sioned, 'It's tough...'
Tenil raises his hand.
Sioned tells you, 'I know )'
Vasque says, 'The reports are checked there is no doubt about that.'
Vasque says, 'Muirlan?'
Nemx smirks mischieviously.
You told Sioned, 'And asking just generates more spam... I try to do direct tells but then I get called names (grin)'
Muirlan says, 'I have a question about GM run events .'
Pinene says, 'Argg. dam beta win k videos drivers'
Muirlan says, 'My question is this . After the last event that ended prematurely .'
Vasque tells you, 'I'm going to have to go work for about 10 mins and take care of some things that only a full guide can handle as I'm the only one on right now.'
You told Vasque, 'Ok.. thank you VERY much for your time.'
Vasque tells you, 'I can be back if you all wish.'
Muirlan says, 'What is being done about keeping people from killing or interrupting storyline?'
You told Vasque, 'I'm sure we'd appreciate it... many wish to meet Athelan.'
Verriana says, 'What's going on?'
Pinene says, 'Shhh'
Vasque says, 'That is handled by the Server GM. He has some tools that he tries to use, but if it gets out of hand the quest is aborted'
Tenil hangs his head in shame for the people on his server.
You say, 'Vasque needs to go do some work... let's try and get to know the other guides that are taking the time to be here.'
Muirlan says, 'That is what happened and it left a bad taste in many mouths'
Vasque says, 'Real quick, I need to leave for about 10 minutes have other players waiting on me )'
Vasque says, 'I will return when I can )'
Nemx says, 'Could i ask one quick question?'
Temyez says, 'Ok thanks for the answers'
Muirlan says, 'Also, some complained that everything was in say mode and it was hard to hear is there plans for another form of communication for these events only?'
You told vasque, 'Thank you... let some of the other guides handle us for a bit.'
Jeekatta has defeated Dalana in a duel to the death!
You say, 'Would another guide like to step up and answer questions?'
Temyez says, 'I guess not Nemx'
Correlian says, 'Well, we're all apprentices, so we probably won't have as many answers as Vasque did.'
Sioned smells apprentice sweat :)
Mysticore says, 'Feel free to ask, we can all respond if we know the answer )'
Temyez says, 'Hehehehe'
Lemminkainen chuckles.
Tenil raises his hand.
Vasque tells you, 'Be careful the questions you ask them they are only Apprentices and most likely will be asking me for answers  '
Mysticore says, 'And if we don't know the answer, we can just run away'
Sioned doesn't :)
Nemx raises ¶ hand.
Rigas says, 'For those keeping the list , I am here representing Phoenix Blade , I also am the Guildmaster'
Trifle tells you, 'I'm afraid i'll have to go now. 3am here, and i need sleep )'
Muirlan says, 'Start running :'
Temyez says, 'Funner when you do Athene?'
You told Vasque, 'I understand... we'll be gentle... I have more exp than they probably do... I'll try to help.'
Temyez says, 'Bite that is?'
You told Trifle, 'G'nite (smile)'
Athene smiles at Temyez and bares a fang.
Muirlan says, 'Hello Rigas'
Rigas says, 'Greetings Muirlan .'
Trifle tells you, 'Dont forget about CSHome )'
Nemx says, 'Why are apprentices naked?'
Sioned thinks Salar has been teaching Athene how to vamp.
You told Trifle, 'Still haven't cornered Athelan.'
Temyez says, 'I am quite sure it is M'lady Athene.'
Trifle says, 'Well i'm afraid i must be off. its 3am here, and i need to go to bed.'
Todar has defeated Alturan in a duel to the death! Alturan has fled like a cowardly dog!
Tenil says, 'Are there any plans to inform guild leaders of up and coming GM run events'
Trifle says, 'Goodnight all. nice meeting you!'
Temyez says, 'Take care Trifle.'
You say, 'I'd like to mention that the Light vs Darkness concept was designed for all guilds to use.... we can answer any questions now about that concept.'
Trifle bows to the guides.
Mysticore says, 'Is there anyone who has a question they would like to ask us?'
Nemx raises ¶ hand.
Kinmob has defeated Reknaw in a duel to the death!
Correlian says, 'Ok, one I saw was why are we naked Apprentices are only given the guide staff, we do not get equipment until we reach full guide.'
You say, 'Ok, Mysticore, I'll give you a tough one.... are you afraid of being accused of Favoritism if you speak with us?'
Mysticore says, 'On GM events, they are intentionally kept secret, and I don't believe there are any plans to reveal them before they are implemented.'
Talic has defeated Raisk in a duel to the death!
Nemx says, 'Ah kay, thanks )'
Temyez says, 'Hehehe'
Sioned says, 'Was taht the issue before balar?'
Athene says, 'Yes'
You say, 'But GM events HAVE been revealed before....'
Sioned says, 'Ahh'
Mysticore says, 'Favoritism? I wouldn't say so. Talking and interacting with the players is part of our job.'
You say, 'Ok, and if we suggest ways of improving the GM events?'
Athene says, 'At other meetings we have been told that assisting in any way with our roleplaying between guilds would be seen as favoritism.'
Athene says, 'True, Balar?'
Sioned says, 'Assinting in what way'
Sioned says, 'Assisting rather'
You say, 'True Athene, the line between GM event and player event is thin.'
Mysticore says, 'We are encouraged to roleplay if it is appropriate, but that does not include divulging information to players that we would normally not be allowed to reveal )'
Hoodwink says, 'When it comes to GM events we do not get any info. These are very well keep secerts untill just befor they happen'
Athene says, 'Little ways. I asked for a Druid's Paw" for one of our events. A worthless item to create, and it was a no go because that would be favoritism.'
You say, 'We have attempted to bring roleplaying to the server, we have attempted to work with the staff to keep our stories consistent with the GM event stories only to watch our staff "fired"'
Tenil says, 'We need more GM help as we don't have the tools available they do, but this is favoritism'
Alokut says, 'And to see the Gm events fail horriblely'
You say, 'Unfortunately I think this is above where the apprentice guides can speak... the basic issue is are you afraid to try and work with us?'
Sioned says, 'I agree balar'
Athene agrees.
Muirlan agrees.
Sioned says, 'Only to the part that this might be above where they can speak that is )'
You say, 'We have asked for many trivial things.... (change of faction of a puppet player) and all have been denied as potential "favoritism".'
Sioned says, 'Nem'
Mysticore says, 'I cannot speak for the others, but I would be unwilling to participate in anything questionable if I had not received permission to do so. Losing my Apprentice status would not do anyone any good except possibly my replacement )'
Sioned bonks Nemx on the head!
You say, 'And many of us have put months and months of effort in and yet the GMs fail to see any benefit of working with us.'
Sioned says, 'Hmmmm one sec )'
Muirlan says, 'Will any GM's be coming to answer our questions or is this meeting closed?'
Correlian says, 'Vasque will most likely be back when he is done. We had several petitions that only a full guide could handle.'
You say, 'Can any of the guides answer if Athelan has returned from Lunch and can now attend?'
Grimm says, 'I must be off, May Brell keep ya safe . cept ya nasy evil buggers )'
Lemminkainen says, 'Good hunting, Grimm.'
Tenil makes a rude gesture at Grimm.
Correlian says, 'It doesn't look like Athelan is back yet.'
Alokut says, 'Hunt well Grimm'
Tenil waves goodbye to Grimm.
Muirlan says, 'Was he aware of our time set Balar?'
Temyez sits down next to Athene.
You say, 'Yes, Athelan was very aware of the meeting.'
You say, 'He was directly emailed.'
Alokut says, 'And he chose not to be here. hm '
Muirlan shakes his head.
You say, 'And I reminded him in a direct tell on Thursday evening and he asked where and when it would be.'
Alokut says, 'That is really sad. Not a good sign is it?'
Aumyen tells the guild, 'Hey all anything happening?'
Correlian says, 'It may not be anything he could help.'
You say, 'I must say that I'm disappointed, this doesn't encourage me to put in further effort to help Verant improve the game.'
Temyez says, 'Perhaps he had RL matters'
Muirlan says, 'Not only did he chose to not be here himself but also he did not take the precautions to staff as replacement that could stay to handle questions while another GM handle the petitions'
Bumbaclot tells the guild, 'Getting ripped off by the ujgr play nice rules'
Ramine has defeated Cekelion in a duel to the death!
Correlian says, 'Often, GMs will go to other servers to assist if zones crash, etc.'
Hoodwink says, 'Well I need to run. I hope things work out with your eforts'
Gibarn says 'Guarding with my life..oh splendid one'
Mysticore says, 'I wouldn't let it discourage you, he has a number of responsibilitie once of which may have been an emergency.'
Muirlan says, 'The fact is that you dont even know why he left for sure'
Correlian says, 'Aye, that is true.'
Aumyen tells you, 'You should ask someone in the guild if they know how to do websites and if they can be responsible enough to maintain it a web site is a very valubale asset since it helps us organize'
Athene says, 'I, for you, respect those of you who came in his stead. It can't have been easy, and I could not have done as well as you have before this crowd.'
Muirlan says, 'Balar, I suggest we call this meeting to an end . We can furthur discuss issues among ourselves by the board and emails'
Lobekn says 'Guarding with my life..oh splendid one'
Temyez says, 'I for one, second that'
Skragg tells you, 'Perhaps you should have a private talk with bumbaclot about better representation of our fine guild, his moral leaves a bit to be desired.'
You say, 'This meeting has never been dependent upon the Verant staff, those who wish to remain may.'
Treciex says, 'What is it about'
You say, 'And I'd like to give Athelan the benefit of the doubt and be patient for him.'
Correlian says, 'I'm checking now to see if Vasque is coming back.'
Athene tells you, 'The Templar Sioned asks good questions, I think. I wish Kryx had come.'
Muirlan says, 'One hour and a half IS the benefit of the doubt'
You told Aumyen, 'I don't have the time.... feel free to find a volunteer.'
You told Athene, 'Yes... I agree!'
Aumyen tells you, 'Ahh ok il ask soem other time )'
Treciex says, 'What going on here people can some one tell me'
Temyez says, 'Good Travels to you all, Tunare be with you'
Muirlan says, 'Norrath High Council meeting'
Temyez bows before Athene.
You told hoodwink, 'Thank you for coming.'
Temyez says, 'M'lady'
Tenil says, 'Spread the hate'
Athene bows before Temyez.
Tenil bows before Temyez.
Rigas says, 'Greetings Vasque'
Tenil says, 'Welcome back'
Gibarn00 says, 'Mmm mistresss lookie der'
Vasque says, 'Thanks )'
You say, 'Does anyone have another topic?'
Sioned says, 'Quiet beast lest i dismiss u'
Muirlan says, 'I would like to continue on the one I was speaking of before the departure'
You say, 'Please continue Muirlan.'
Gibarn00 says, 'Mmm a barbie'
Gibarn00 says, 'Me likez barbies'
Xebarer says 'Guarding with my life..oh splendid one'
Hoodwink tells you, 'Sure glad I could make it. Sorry I had to leave. Someone needs to work the petitions. It was to hard to work them there'
Gibarn00 says, 'Me hope dat de isn't clastraphobic'
You told Hoodwink, 'Understood (smile).... and many of us understand the limitation of guides.'
Muirlan says, 'There were several that complained of not being able to hear because of GM events being in say mode Is there any plans to use another communication for GM events?'
Hoodwink tells you, 'Is it posible that it just mez them longer'
You told Hoodwink, 'I hope I wasn't too forthright.'
Hoodwink tells you, 'Sorry wrong tell'
Padien says, 'Wow can i get a heal plz'
Reneshen begins to Ward Gibarn :)
Vasque says, 'GM events are handled using whatever speech methods are put into the script'
Padien says, 'Thanks'
Hoodwink tells you, 'Not at all'
Muirlan says, 'Using say mode is inadequte What steps should be taken to change this?'
Padien says, 'Why are those 2 called the apprentic'
Athene tells you, 'Got to run. Great meeting'
Vasque says, 'As far as I know, there are no plans to implement a different form of communication'
Xebarer says 'Following Master.'
Xebarer says 'Guarding with my life..oh splendid one'
Correlian says, 'We are Apprentice Guides, Padien.'
Vasque says, 'For the most part say works just fine.'
Xenobn says 'As you wish, oh great one'
Bloodwar has defeated Brhaam in a duel to the death! Brhaam has fled like a cowardly dog!
Pinene says, 'Man this is becoming to crowded, i recomend we do this in the Arenan next time'
Piccolo says, 'Vasque may I inspect you?'
You say, 'Vasque, how about the issue of publicizing events AFTER they occur so word can be spread so all can understand the storyline?'
Muirlan says, 'Many epople take particapate in these speak differently'
Gibarn00 says, in Troll, 'Egad .'
Gibarn says 'Guarding you Master'
Vasque says, 'But once again, for changes you wish to see in the game, feedback would be the channel of choice.'
Kaelen bows before Sioned.
Piccolo says, 'What kind of SWORD is that !'
Vasque says, 'Balar: They are not broadcasted after for a reason.'
Skitzo has defeated Mordoth in a duel to the death! Mordoth has fled like a cowardly dog!
You say, 'Vasque, please enlighten us.'
Vasque says, 'If someone misses a quest, you can read about it on the web site.'
Vasque says, 'There is a history section there that is updated'
Walamorf says, 'Can i get anney buffs plees'
Reneshen says, 'How are the people who get to participate in GM quests chosen?'
Vasque says, 'But, quests will never be broadcasted on the server. And even if they were, mayn would still miss the broadcast'
You say, 'WHAT website?  I was told Verant would NOT publish this... I've asked for SIX months that this be published in a history section of an official website.'
Xebarer00 says, 'Could you clarify just how far can a GM go to help out in a player run event'
You say, 'No Vasque, I was asking not that they be broadcast on the server but that they be put on an official website OR at least communicated to the Ambassadors to spread word.'
Vasque says, 'The history of Norrath is published on the EQ website. The changes and ongoing stories and published on fan sites all over as soon as quests happen'
Muirlan says, in Dark Speech, 'Watch it honey ) This pastie is fluent in your languag '
You told vasque, 'I'm bringing up the Verant website on another PC right now.... I'll look for any history info.'
Pinene says, 'Whats this unknown language stuff?'
Reneshen waves goodbye to everyone.
Vasque tells you, 'Also look in the manual on your HD in the EQ directory I believe there is some history in there'
Darkforge says, 'May i inspect u GM's'
Thebrawlinhands says, 'Whats with all the people?'
Muirlan says, 'So the History section of Everquest's official site is updated with the events after they happen? Is this correct?'
You told Vasque, 'We are talking GM events... ongoing storyline not ancient history and background gods.'
Mysticore says, 'You'll be disappointed if you inspect me Darkforge )'
Vasque says, 'Not with the quests that happen.'
Vasque tells you, 'Those are not published on the Verant's webstie'
Vasque tells you, 'Those are however published on fan sites'
You say, 'So, then you are saying the GM events are NOT published.'
You are low on drink.
Muirlan says, in Dark Speech, 'Does it lie under that black dress of yours? )'
Dethfist says, 'Me hab to go now, i is needed by boss. me will post sum thots on msg board if me rember'
Dethfist waves goodbye to everyone.
You say, 'No, fansites don't count... that's not official... it's rumor... no way to coordinate it.... an incredible amount of work to research it.'
Muirlan says, 'We are asking for a way to officially follow the storyline'
Aakmin says, 'Wow! whats up here?'
Tulvas says, 'Is this some sort of event or sumthin?'
Vasque says, 'The official way to follow the story line is by building a comminuty where the quests and story line are talked about'
Sioned says, in Troll, 'No event dearie'
Alokut says, 'You we create our own story and you will follow it?'
You say, 'I've spent SIX MONTHS building this community... just when we started to actually make progress the staff was FIRED.'
Muirlan says, 'That is not in place and that format does not allow people that have joined this server to know how to participate'
Vasque says, 'No, I do not mean you create a story and we'll follow it'
Xebarer00 says, 'But we don't know what the storylines are could you not at least let us know'
Sioned says, in Troll, 'Shall we bruther?'
Vasque says, 'I mean in order to follow the history that is building in norrath, and to follow all the quests the player community needs to build an information network'
Tulvas says, 'So u mean u gonna tell us the history of norrath?'
You say, 'We have tried.... we work hard at it... '
Muirlan says, 'Because Verant has no plans to help the players with any storyline other than to script?'
Vasque says, 'But, if I may interject something here'
Sioned kneels before Vasque in humility and reverence.
Sioned says, in Troll, 'Firewell wark one'
Lemminkainen thinks he sees a vein throbbing in Balar's forehead.
Salar snaps to attention and salutes Vasque crisply.
You say, 'I have just pulled up the official website on another PC and there is NO information on things that have happenned in the game (no mention of Lanys T'Vyl).'
Tulvas says, 'I know of Miragul and the necros thats the only history i know'
Vasque says, 'If you all have questions about things like policies and the like, those I can answer. For things that are coming up now such as things you would like to see happen and things in the game, you need to use the channels provided '
Rigas says, 'The thing about it is that the priamry people who actually role play on this server are on and almost the same times , so to build a strong information excnahge network, would require that people who roleplay and know whats going on be logged on almos '
Rigas says, 'All the time , which unfoutunatly is not found in many online games.'
Rigas says, 'Including EQ'
You say, 'Again it appears Vasque, that you are saying Verant does NOT want to enhance roleplaying, does NOT want to work with the players.'
Tulvas says, 'In way, at least what i think balar, i think thats true they want us to piece together quests into a big history collection" for ourselves'
Tulvas says, 'And don't wanna hold our hands doing it'
You say, 'And I've tried to start that with the Light vs Darkness concept.... but again we hit technical problems and communication problems.'
Tulvas says, 'But that shows nothing of the real story its just good vs evil fighting over zones from what i gather'
Tulvas says, 'But it is a step in the right direction'
You say, 'We have a lot of trouble functioning as a server society.... rather than a bunch of small guilds doing their own things.'
Xebarer00 says, 'Thats what we want to change Tulvas'
Lemminkainen waves at Mysticore.
You say, 'The story could develop if the leaders become known, and if Verant would help us keep a consistent storyline.'
Vasque says, 'I guess what you are really looking for is the roles guides and GM's will play in the lands'
Rigas says, 'Is thier any way that Verant could have GM that thier only job function is to hold events and tell the story of Norrath? instead of having you all juggle Customer service while doing events .'
Flitt has defeated Nobok in a duel to the death! Nobok has fled like a cowardly dog!
Tenil agrees with Xebarer.
Vasque says, 'Is that what you are looking for?'
Tulvas says, 'Aye u need to play a role because obviously we couldnt for some roles IE Antonius Bale or Miragul etc'
You say, 'What I'd like is for the GM and Guide staff to build story and society not deal with fixing the results of bugs.'
You say, 'Exactly, we can't make players play roles because of the huge restrictions on us...'
Tulvas says, 'Aye'
Vasque says, 'Well, you need to understand that our roles are dictated by Verant. Changes you wish to see in that aspect need to be submitted to them, not asked of us.'
Tenil says, 'Could you clarify just how far can a GM go to help out in a player run event'
You say, 'That is why we invited the GM Athelan here... he IS Verant.'
Vasque says, 'A GM and a Guide cannot help in a player run quest.'
Tulvas says, 'Athelan is cool'
Tulvas says, 'They can only monitor it right?'
Tenil says, 'Why'
Vasque says, 'Player run quests are just that, player run.'
Tulvas says, 'Cause if a gm were to help then it wouldnt be a gm quest now would it?'
Tulvas says, 'Err player quest'
Vasque says, 'The defining quests that change history are set by Verant.'
Tenil says, 'No it would be a gm assisted quest'
Tulvas says, 'And not a player one'
Vasque says, 'No, because if we helped with a quest for 1 person, we would have to for all that asked. And we do not have that manpower'
You say, 'Right... so we are left with GM quests and storylines that only 1 percent of the server are aware of or limited player events that mostly end up as small conflicts.'
Rigas says, 'I agree Vasque, that world changin quests should be done by verant, but, huge quests like that are few and far between . What we need is smaller, more open ended evenst and quests , such is a good campiagn in the old pen and paper days .'
Vasque says, 'Player ran quests can be just as big as GM run quests. It's all dependant on who chooses to participate.'
You say, 'We wish to stand up and volunteer as your means to involve EVERYONE... then it isn't favoritism... you work with us and we help make sure EVERYONE is involved.'
Tulvas says, 'So what was the whole point of this meeting?'
Tulvas says, 'I arrived late sorry'
Norrak waves at Naros.
Naros says, 'You've been busy .'
You say, 'The point of all the Ambassador Council meetings Tulvas is to attempt to improve the game for everyone.'
Norrak says, 'Been in fear since we cracked it yesterday'
Naros says, 'Ill be nskho i made it on acident'
Players in EverQuest:
* Apprentice Guide *[20 Wizard] Mysticore (Dark Elf) ZONE: nro
* Guide *[50 Enchanter] Vasque (Dark Elf) < Order of Bristlebane > ZONE: nro
* Apprentice Guide *[19 Rogue] Hoodwink (Halfling) ZONE: freporte
* Apprentice Guide *[20 Druid] Correlian (Wood Elf) ZONE: nro
There are 4 players in EverQuest.
Naros says, 'Thnx man''
Rigas says, 'Thats is were i think the Quest" GMs come into play . keeping something happeneing on the server at all times . since this is a 24 7 game .'
Norrak snaps to attention and salutes Naros crisply.
Uenin bows before Balar.
Naros says, 'Hail all, I am the Ambasador of the Ring of Valor'
You say, 'GMs (and guides) dedicated to bringing regular roleplaying would be a great improvement.'
Pinene says, 'Aye it would!'
You say, 'Greetings Naros!'
Tenil agrees with everyone around g?-?+?G6agrees with everyone around g.
Vasque says, 'Roleplaying cannot be brought upon any player unless that is what they want.'
Norrak wonders what all this stuff is about.
Rigas says, 'Very true, but the opertunity will be thier  '
Vasque says, 'And no matter how hard anyone tries, all online games will be limited by the engine in which they are created.'
Rigas says, 'Thats the key, the way i see it . is having it avalible .'
You say, 'Nobody is asking to force the players to participate.'
Muirlan says, 'What are you saying? There is no need for a GM as suchbecause players are not interested in it?'
Tenil says, 'But this doesn't affect the people that don't want to roleplay, they can go on as normal but to the people that do I is a big deal'
Vasque says, 'There are roleplaying opportunities availlable. A roleplayer makes their own out of the game '
You say, 'Exactly Vasque, the engine is very limited... we are asking for Verant's help to let the players and GMs and Guides bring something more to the game.'
Bloodwar has defeated Bravis in a duel to the death! Bravis has fled like a cowardly dog!
Rigas says, 'Yes, everyone is the master of thier own destiny here , but the enviorment can sometimes hinder the path at which a person goes about playing as the have concefed thier character spelling sorry)'
You say, 'I still say Verant has no clue how many hundreds of players have come to me begging to have roleplaying brought to the server only to be disappointed because I don't have the power of a GM to bring them entertainment.'
Naros says, 'May I enquire as to the current topic of discussion?'
Pinene says, 'Roleplaying'
You say, 'Roleplaying Naros, and if Verant will be involved at all.'
Vasque says, 'Guys, I have said this before and I'll say it again.'
Naros says, 'Not after the ak'anon incednet .'
Vasque says, 'What you are proposing is a change to the policies GM's and Guides have to follow'
Vasque says, 'We do not have a choice in the matter'
You say, 'We've been doing that for six months Vasque.'
Vasque says, 'If you wish to see it changed, you will have to take it up with Verant'
Alokut says, 'So we need to use feedback'
You say, 'We are trying... please communicate it to them.'
Pinene says, 'We have no way to know if your  feedbacks are being taken seriously'
Balar laughs at Pinene.
Rigas says, 'In my opinion, what the players of EQ need is a way to EFFECTIVELY hold events and quests, which in in currant state is difficult if not imposibble , no i understand what you are saying Vasque, i am just sharing my opinions, not asking you to change thing'
Naros says, 'I have yet to here anything about feedbacks'
Vasque says, 'Feedback and Bug are the main forms of communication that Verant uses to make changes to the game'
Pinene says, 'I have done feedback a lot, reasonable ones. things that make a lot of sense, i have seen nothing happen'
You say, 'Vasque, please do not take any of this as criticism of you... we GREATLY appreciate the time you are taking.'
Vasque says, 'Just because you submit a feedback, does not mean you will see it changed.'
Vasque says, 'I'm not Balar )'
Naros says, 'How would a player that wants to run a RP event go about such things, I mean, it is Bbane's birthday'
Muirlan says, 'Vasque? What will happen to those that ARE violating the play nice policy? ie the 15 lvl person from your example'
Pinene says, 'I know, but it would be nice to at least know if it has been takeing seriously'
Alokut says, 'Aye I have used feedback and it just seems to go into a black hole. That is why people talkto you about it cause you are more real and responsive than Varant seems to be'
You say, 'I've gone so far as to hunt down Verant's phone number (well hidden) and called Gordon Wrinn personally (he never returned my call and only responded to one email with "I can't comment right now")'
Rigas says, 'Having a dedicated GM or guide to help the players with player runned events that DO NOT effect the world would i beleive, help role play grow on the server .'
Vasque says, 'Rigas: That goes back to what you do for 1 you have to do for all. It is not physically possible for that to happen.'
You say, 'The guides have always been more responsive than Verant, many of our previous guides wanted roleplaying badly.'
Vasque says, 'Muirlan: After a Guide submits a ruling, if that ruling is not followed a warning will be issued which can lead to suspension Banning'
You say, 'Vasque, not possible if Verant doesn't change anything... but they could.'
Keemen has defeated Suur in a duel to the death!
Naros says, 'What would happen if, say, 5 groups all decided to to go camp the arch magi, and it was already camped?'
Vasque says, '6 groups would be camping it taking turns'
Naros says, 'Explain what would make a turn ?'
Vasque says, 'Depends on the situation'
Rigas says, 'Very true and i do see your point Vasque , though someting needs to be done to help the players run events , possibly even a method of which a PLAYER can submit a event to verant and be given certain powers to carry out these events so as long it dosent'
You told vasque, 'Thank you again VERY much... I must be going to sleep now... we appreciate your time!'
Naros says, 'What if the new group just wanted the SMR for trade, but the first group needed it for a memeber?'
Rigas says, 'Effect the world in general . like when you submit for guild approval'
Vasque says, 'Doesn't matter what the reason for wanting the item is'
You say, 'I'd like to thank everyone, especially Vasque.  I must be logging off now...'
Muirlan says, 'It doesnt?'
Lemminkainen says, 'I must be going as well.'
Naros says, 'And what be the effect if the guides cant enforce this poicy?'
Lemminkainen waves.
Muirlan says, 'I always thought that it was OFFICIAL that there is to be no farming'
Pinene says, 'U arent camping an item u are camping spawns '
You say, 'Let me know in e-mail if anything important is brought up.'
Vasque says, 'If a player does not listen to the Guides ruling repeatedly, it will result in that person being banned from EQ and their account deleted'
Naros says, 'And what if enough people do it deliberatly as a protest '
Pinene says, 'Thats a little drastic , considering we are paying customers'
Vinladar has defeated Kivine in a duel to the death! Kivine has fled like a cowardly dog!
Pinene says, 'And it just a game'
You told pinene, 'We may not be paying customers for long... wish we could convince Verant of that.'
Muirlan says, 'What happened then to yielding to a lower party on a spawn to prevent farming?'
Pinene tells you, 'Hehe. ya'
Naros says, 'Well, if yer putting in 8 hours a day  '
Vasque says, 'No one is going to be banned outright. But, if players are repeatedly anti social, it is better for the player community as a whole to remove those people'
Vasque says, 'The Yield rule was over ruled.'
Naros says, 'So muscling yer way in for a turn for a camp you didnt clear isnt anti social?'
Rigas bows before Alokut.
Vasque says, 'Going to a camp and requesting a share is not anti social'
Naros says, 'What if you couldnt noramlly hold the camp?'
Pinene says, 'Then u have no right on it'
Naros says, 'But the new rules dont say that'
Pinene says, 'We have been through this at th ebeginning of this meeting, i dont think the Guides want to repeat themnselves'
Naros says, 'Oh, i appologise for bringing up old topics'
Pinene says, 'I think balar will post what has been said this meetin '
Naros says, 'Does the GM have a bad connection?'
Moraganna says, 'Heheh'
You say, '(laugh) I might dump that onto someone else (grin).'
Pinene says, 'Looks like it'
Moraganna says, 'Sioned says hi )'
Pinene says, 'Oh '
Naros says, 'So, anyone have any cross guild concerns?'
Moraganna says, 'Ooc i laughed when i saw him ld ) and thought the same thing how ironic he must have a badd connection as there isn't a prob with lag on this server )'
Muirlan says, 'My guild would like to interact with other guilds in events anyone up for it?'
You say, 'Yes Muirlan, we created the Light and Darkness guilds to allow multiguildwars.'
Naros says, 'Feel free to contact me Muirlan. I can talk to RoV event coordinators'
Muirlan says, 'I know this I meant my the Claw of nagafen would like to interact with another guild in an event'
Naros says, 'I most take my leave, there is a fetid fiend waiting for me. Good day'
You say, 'Anyone may contact myself and the other Light and Darkness leaders to organize any events they wish.'
Muirlan says, 'Thanks Naros'
Muirlan says, 'Well, it was good meeting you all. I look forward to seeing you again '
Tenil waves goodbye to everyone.
Pinene says, 'Well. i think im gonna go interject myself in a low lvl spawn, maybe dvinn, i could use a dirk'
You say, 'And I need some sleep.'
Tenil says, 'Hehe'
Pinene says, 'Balar, thanks for organizing this'
You say, 'You are all welcome.'
Tenil applauds Balar's performance.
You say, 'I wish we could get Verant to understand how many players we represent.'
Tenil waves goodbye to everyone.
You told Tenil, 'Ok... Morkano will be there.'
Pinene says, 'Nite nite balar, sleep tight'
You say, 'They don't seem to understand that 40 guilds times 20 players is 800 players... and that's on the low side.'
Alokut says, 'Sigh Balar'
You say, 'I'm not thrilled with the answer "feel free to roleplay on your own"....'